Failure to update graphics drivers properly.

noobking · September 20, 2013, 01:36:08 PM

Hello all,

Im sort of new to linux and even newer to back box. I know that backbox has a different interface from regular ubuntu, so i figured I'd ask here.

I installed backbox 3.09 x64 on my machine and I updated packages. I had it running and did a driver update for the nvidia 304 to 319. I rebooted and It started in terminal. I tried startx and I recieved an API mismatch error (i believe) stating something about 304 and 319. It continued to say something else, like something wasn't found.. I googled for some tips, but I managed to screw something up when i finally got startx running. I couldn't login as my user but I could as a guest. I figured I screwed a file up, so I'm currently reinstalling. I know this isn't very detailed information and I don't sound very knowledgeable about this stuff, but I'm really just trying to learn. Can you help me install the driver correctly?

Thanks.

weVeg · September 20, 2013, 01:49:54 PM

Hi!
I currently have nvidia card but with proprietary driver I had only problem... so if you don't need to use cuda or something else I propose you to not install nvidia driver but keep the nouveau open driver that works out of the box and greatly!

cheers!

noobking · September 20, 2013, 02:15:56 PM

I would like to play some of the high-end games on this computer.

b4d_bl0ck · September 20, 2013, 03:03:21 PM

Hi noobking,
not to be unfriendly, but if all you need is playing games, use weirdows not BackBox.

weVeg · September 20, 2013, 03:15:29 PM

Quote from: b4d_bl0ck on September 20, 2013, 03:03:21 PM
Hi noobking,
not to be unfriendly, but if all you need is playing games, use weirdows not BackBox.

quote

noobking · September 20, 2013, 06:33:55 PM

Like I said, I'm trying to learn. gaming is an added plus. i don't want to install windows on my computer ever again.

weVeg · September 20, 2013, 09:25:28 PM

Quote from: noobking on September 20, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Like I said, I'm trying to learn. gaming is an added plus. i don't want to install windows on my computer ever again.

Ok, it's a good idea learn but you should start with another distro, may be ubuntu or xubuntu also better with debian (debian rocks ;) listen me [1] ) and install what you need. For sure you don't need all the packages present on Bbox, and for sure Bbox isn't appropriate either to start and/or playing game! With distros suggested above you can receive all the support you need for gaming and basic administration!
I hope that help you!

[1] http://tinyurl.com/m4uto47

noobking · September 21, 2013, 02:58:09 AM

Quote from: weVeg on September 20, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: noobking on September 20, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Like I said, I'm trying to learn. gaming is an added plus. i don't want to install windows on my computer ever again.
Ok, it's a good idea learn but you should start with another distro, may be ubuntu or xubuntu also better with debian (debian rocks ;) listen me [1] ) and install what you need. For sure you don't need all the packages present on Bbox, and for sure Bbox isn't appropriate either to start and/or playing game! With distros suggested above you can receive all the support you need for gaming and basic administration!
I hope that help you!

[1] http://tinyurl.com/m4uto47

I've used ubuntu on and off for a couple years, and I am familiar with a limited number of years. I also use os X. I am thankful for your debian suggestion. I'm going to install that on my hard drive and use a liveboot usb (or a VM) for bbox. I usually dd the .img to the usb drive, but i see all these files:

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/MANIFEST

What are each of the hd-media files used for? What do I need?

Thanks

b4d_bl0ck · September 21, 2013, 10:14:02 AM

Nice to see people getting interested to Debian ;)
Anyways you shouldn't need to browse all the archive you linked. That's not the way to get your Debian.
Go on the main website, www.debian.org, and download the netinst iso in the download section. Once put on the usb device, it won't work as live system, but the bootloader makes you choose directly the options for the installation, and it will start installation process downloading all needed data from the internet.
If you want a live Debian you can refer to http://live.debian.net, but that's useless if you just need to install it on your system.

Anyways i guess you read some documentation about the different versions of Debian. If you install the Stable (Wheezy at present), your software might look obsolete if you need most recent stuffs, like games and drivers, on your box. So you may need to enable backports repositories, but this can be not enough as well.
If you really want to use Debian as desktop and games and so on, you should install al least the Testing (Jessie as now) or Unstable (it's called like this for its frequent updates, not because it crashes :) also if updates can mess something).

If you want a feedback, I did use the previous Stable(Squeeze) as main os for many months and it was fine, but i had no specific necessity for latest software/hardware support. Now i'm with Jessie and it's also very stable.
If one day you'll need a pentesting distro, then choose BackBox! :P

Have fun!

noobking · September 21, 2013, 08:32:58 PM

Quote from: b4d_bl0ck on September 21, 2013, 10:14:02 AM
Nice to see people getting interested to Debian ;)
Anyways you shouldn't need to browse all the archive you linked. That's not the way to get your Debian.
Go on the main website, www.debian.org, and download the netinst iso in the download section. Once put on the usb device, it won't work as live system, but the bootloader makes you choose directly the options for the installation, and it will start installation process downloading all needed data from the internet.
If you want a live Debian you can refer to http://live.debian.net, but that's useless if you just need to install it on your system.

Anyways i guess you read some documentation about the different versions of Debian. If you install the Stable (Wheezy at present), your software might look obsolete if you need most recent stuffs, like games and drivers, on your box. So you may need to enable backports repositories, but this can be not enough as well.
If you really want to use Debian as desktop and games and so on, you should install al least the Testing (Jessie as now) or Unstable (it's called like this for its frequent updates, not because it crashes :) also if updates can mess something).

If you want a feedback, I did use the previous Stable(Squeeze) as main os for many months and it was fine, but i had no specific necessity for latest software/hardware support. Now i'm with Jessie and it's also very stable.
If one day you'll need a pentesting distro, then choose BackBox! :P

Have fun!

I would like to install Debian Jessie on a live USB so that I can bring it to work and use it, use it to install on my desktop, and possibly my mac OS X. I can't find the .iso on the debian website. Any help?

I also think it would be sweet if i could dualboot bbox and debian 8.0 off my usb drive. I want to learn pen testing concurrently with some of the commands of debian.