Actually I found out a similar question made by another user about the debian-ubuntu thing.
Sorry about that, I did miss it at first.
Because the past topic is 1 year old, I decided to make this new post on the matter.
If I'm wrong in doing this, please let me know and I will correct my behave thanks
Going back to the matter quoting ostendali:
There is no big difference between Debian and Ubuntu the latter depends on previous one so it a matter of personal taste I have to say if you dont like ubuntu. Said that, Backbox is not Ubuntu, it is core been built on ubuntu simply because there is no need to reinvent the wheel as it is already there. Another reason is the repository system, ubuntu has better organized repository system where everyone can contribute to that. Since I am Debian fan really, I can't say the same about the Debian repo. So there are a number of reasons behind the choice of building BB on ubuntu core...
I have to disagree with that, if you are referring to the ppa system, you can use them as well in debian.
Speaking of its usability, ubuntu repos (not bbox) are a mess, I will make an example:
- Trying to search and install the virualbox-guest packeges, a user will get this from apt search result:https://pastebin.com/REPFAKU7
really?! all the past LTS iteration are there?! how is that supposed to be user friendly and clear for a new comer? Why not list\have just the lts version ubuntu\bbox is based upon?!
- Without talking about making a customized backbox ISO, I did that and after a long headache, I just cope with the fact that ubuntu customization state is broke as f*ck, and the only way to make one usable customization iso is to hold some packages from the build and fix them later once installed in persistent mode or such.
This is a known ubuntu bug that goes back since freaking 14.04 version o.O was fixed for a version I believe, and then reappeared.
Probably for the same reason, you don't have a guide on the wiki on how to make a custom iso, to spare headache to the other users I guess am I wrong (or are other reason behind it)?
Again never happened with debian customization scripts.
- More important overall, let's talk about portability, with debian maintaining other platforms as arm and such, it could open huge opportunities for backbox in future development.
ubuntu portability is...none
- I think I made my point without going further with examples, or talking about poor ubuntu upgrade system that from time to time broke the system on dist-upgrades for newcomers (although that's probably more user's fault not paying attention to apt-get and knowing how to use it properly, but again never happened on debian even on sid).
- Also I'm interested in the future of this matter in the light of the ubuntu situation right now, as I stated in my previous post.
- Indeed I will take a look at ostendali's suggestion of use bbox packages on top of debian and see what happens.
That could be fun to play with, I thought was a bad idea to mix "backbox\ubuntu package" with debian itself, but if everything will go smoothly could be a great thing, use this awesome distro and tweaks, with a much better stable distro as debian. Any thoughts on why should it be a bad idea?
[ firing up virtualbox \o/ yeyyyyyyy ]
Indeed I would like to clarify that this post is not made to start a flamewar or creted to be disrespectful, as I said I love backbox and the whole community, I'm trying to support it in any way as much as I can, proof is I'm still using it since day 0 despite I'm not in love with the ubuntu ecosystem lately.
My only intent is to open an honest and interesting discussion about it, and maybe find a reason to change my point of view, I'm totally open minded so
Sorry for this huge wall of words