Author Topic: Ethical halts for the CERN LHC & Vatican Bank?  (Read 8475 times)


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Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
Movies and real life are not the same.


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or just run sudo rm -rf /*


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Reply #2 on: December 25, 2015, 07:16:06 AM
So, The CERN LargeHaldonCollider on a private optical network, but i managed to LAWFULLY push two buttons on my computer and wala! halted Pope's web page for about 3 minutes yesterday.. Hope fully that one donor who was going to donate that 87 trillion FED reserve debt note USD to the Vatican Bank now Could Not do so because of this.. I dream big.



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Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 05:33:15 PM
So, The CERN LargeHaldonCollider on a private optical network, but i managed to LAWFULLY push two buttons on my computer and wala! halted Pope's web page for about 3 minutes yesterday.. Hope fully that one donor who was going to donate that 87 trillion FED reserve debt note USD to the Vatican Bank now Could Not do so because of this.. I dream big.
the question is, why would you do that?
what is the purpose behind that if there is any?

playing around with servers taking them down is not a great ability and it doesn't really make you a hacker.
pushing buttons is the work done by script-kiddies while the real hacking requires skills and lots of logic.




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Reply #4 on: March 15, 2016, 03:34:34 AM
So, The CERN LargeHaldonCollider on a private optical network, but i managed to LAWFULLY push two buttons on my computer and wala! halted Pope's web page for about 3 minutes yesterday.. Hope fully that one donor who was going to donate that 87 trillion FED reserve debt note USD to the Vatican Bank now Could Not do so because of this.. I dream big.
the question is, why would you do that?
what is the purpose behind that if there is any?

playing around with servers taking them down is not a great ability and it doesn't really make you a hacker.
pushing buttons is the work done by script-kiddies while the real hacking requires skills and lots of logic.


Exactly how much is "Lots of Logic" needed to be a real  "Hacker"? Just playin.. IMHO Its more a method of attack, sometimes I research and phish and harvest credentials or find perfect exploit over days of meaningful thought, and other days i just use brute bandwidth and huge computer Farms all in unison to deny service to horrid evil empire.

P.S. Drone the Bohemian Grove 2016!
(all im saying is that my 33 drones will fly from all from different angles streaming the Cremation of Care Live on YouTube 2016! Bohemian Grove OR BUST!)



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Reply #5 on: March 15, 2016, 04:34:46 PM
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Exactly how much is "Lots of Logic" needed to be a real  "Hacker"? Just playin..

more than you have in your imagination....
try to learn the philosophy and the ethical approach of a real hacker before going around and shooting random targets.

You are a script-kiddie, means: you will never be a hacker.
Ciao
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Reply #6 on: March 15, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
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Exactly how much is "Lots of Logic" needed to be a real  "Hacker"? Just playin..

more than you have in your imagination....
try to learn the philosophy and the ethical approach of a real hacker before going around and shooting random targets.

You are a script-kiddie, means: you will never be a hacker.
Ciao
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just because you are dead inside does not mean your special... get over yourself i forgive you :)

P.S. Drone the Bohemian Grove 2016!
(all im saying is that my 33 drones will fly from all from different angles streaming the Cremation of Care Live on YouTube 2016! Bohemian Grove OR BUST!)
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Reply #7 on: March 15, 2016, 11:49:44 PM
I see both points of view , and just calling someone a scriptkiddie isn't really an argument or does it make you out to be something above the laws of learning
everyone has to learn .. and as much as you dont want to admit it , you too used scripts to hacking things etc, in fact we could all be called script kiddies
we all use metasploit , isnt that a script or program in its self to make hacking easy ???

so slow down with the " your a script kiddie"  or thats script kiddie shit

but the point I want to make is ... the term script kidde is thrown around too much and too easly and not put into the right context nearly all of the time
and used to boost the ego of someone that has going through the whole process of using so called automated scripts or tools that dont need much knowlege and found it interesting and learned how it worked

******* A script kiddie is someone who does'nt want to learn or have any interest of understanding how something works

I have a problem with that  statement because I myself have used tools when I first started and because I didnt know or was starting to learn I was eager to hack something and boost my willingness to learn more i.e achieve something which would give me more incentive to want to learn how I achived it, and learn in the process

I stil use metasploit , isnt that a tool to gain access with exploits that are created in the modules and updated .. isnt that a script kiddie tool ? hell its the best example of a script kiddie tool I can think off , the exploits are there all you have to do is set some varibles .. how easy is that # YOUR A SCRIPT KIDDIE

I dont know any OF what you call script kiddies that are human and have no interest or curiouslty on how a process was achieved

maybe your talking about a script kiddie robot as humans are curIous by nature

ok lets put aside my opinions and enter the realm of the so called script kiddie world that you never entered because you woke up one day coding and knew everything from the a-z in hacking and you never used/tried a ddos tool etc or curious about tools that were automated and Im guessing you never used them .. yea right!!! so you too were a script kiddie at one stage !!!!

the term script kiddie is silly and stupid and undermining people trying to learn because the people that have learned started being a script kiddie and becuase there human they wanted to know how it worked and began to watch tutorials and learn more.  its how the human brain works

but again back to the realm that you think exist that there is millions of people out there that are so called script kiddies and they want to hack things by typing "y" or "enter" like you never did that and started off an expert and these so called script kiddies people have no interest of learning ?? or is it that they are trying to learn and being punished because they are not at your stage in pentesting

you and everyone else has done silly shit and dont forget it !!! just becuase you choose to erase the memory doesnt mean it never happened

and another thing !!! IM SICK OF PENTESTING website's or PENTESING distro's starting off with the whole hack this hack that etc etc tutorials how to's , and then when they get some clout or start to make a business out of it start with the whole " we dont condone hacking a network you dont own "

such shit !!!!! I uderstand there trying to make a name for them selfs but dont forget where you came from or what you did to get the level your at
you BROKE THE F*UKING law and thats a fact , you didnt learn from just hacking your own network and if you say you did your a f*cking liar
in order to have field experince you have to test networks out of your network and done shit that you so called say you done condone .. such bullshit !!!

and Hold on a f*cking second "its was ok at the start to publish hacking servers/password cracking etc but when it suits you its iilegal and your all of a sudden responsible .. seriously ???

if your a hacker your irresponsible end of !!! your either breaking or reverse enginering something for the good or bad and when I say good I mean for your own means but its still breaks the EULA or its against the what the item is used for simple as !!!
You hack an android app to do something its not meant to do good or bad its called a hack !!!!!!

Yes there is people that hack code to make it secure but there still hacking it ..

HACKING IS HACKING!!!! your doing something its wasnt designed for i.e hacking ( to access computer networks, legally or otherwise )

Now we get to the dumb shit .. yes there is people that do really stupid shit... while you may have not done that .. its each to ther own , people make there own mistakes
and until you have lived a perfect life and never make a really bad decision you cant judge !!   people make mistakes for all sorts of reasons its not always black and white , some because there just stupid and some because there going through a bad patch and there decision proocess is at an all time low etc, but calling them stupid or unintelligent would be a mistake , we all fuck up but are we all stupid and scriptkiddies that have no ambitions

I throughly dont think there is anyone out there looking for a script to hack something and not have one bit of interest on how it worked or doesnt want to learn
other wise they would'nt be involved with pentesting  they would be a plumber or electrian etc


If the user wants to be stupid or irresponsible and hack something thats his business after all backbox encoraged him, did you think everyone was going to be the pillar of society that you claim to be not everyone is as delusional as you some people are hackers and want to do bad at least there real and dont say one thing and then fall back on the old .. thats wrong and Ive never done anything like that  and besides its not your buisness ... if you fall on the side of your a professional and never hack anything illegal then if you want to reply advise him not to and if you dont care dont reply at all .. its simple  but dont go down the route of your a script kiddie BECAUSE YOU WERE ONCE IN HIS SHOES !!!!!!


Im not sticking up for either side Im just the devils advocate

p.s if you have to comment about my spelling or grammar and have nothing else to add dont bother its a cheap shot I'm aware I've made a lot of grammaticall errors
Im more interesting in making the point about degrading people trying to learn and how the same people calling these people script kiddes that have them selves used so called script kiddie tools .. the blind calling the blind .. blind, nows theres a quandary..... than making grammar mistakes I wasn't trying to apply for a grammar contest

But Im' sure you woke up a hacker and a english grammaticall expert and a wizard of all things human

Im a lesser human being please forgive my faults maybe you can teach me the way of the perfect human


YOUR A SCRIPT KIDDIE MEANS YOU WILL NEVER BE A HACKER, thats is an absoute stupid retarded statement...  ? HOW DID YOU GET HERE ???

everyhacker that is a great hacker started using scripts you DUMB ASS, ask any hacker have they used script to hack and learn , what do you think is the answer  ??

pretentious fecker you had to learn like the rest of us , remember where you started off you self rightous  feck

THE FACT IS EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM HAS TRIED OR DONE IILEGAL SH*T yet when its suits you its frown upon

if that isnt bullshit I dont know what is !!!!

Oh look at me look at me I'm GREAT and look at these silly little script kiddes trying to learn and hack something with scripts they know nothing about , Im the shit these are primitive people that have to learn, I never had to do this and I DONT remember this !!!!  DONT FORGET WHERE YOU CAME FROM OR HOW YOU LEARNED , you didnt get all this experience from the end of the raindbow
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Reply #8 on: March 16, 2016, 01:21:07 AM
Changing the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coDtzN6bXAM&index=5&list=PLZbXA4lyCtqow0f5I9Ukug72VgwHm_oZT

Too Late...

We Shall wait for the one with the "keys" to shutdown eastern seaboard Internet to reveal themselves...
I vote high priest of Bohemian Grove personally.

sure it starts our small, but soon digital electricity TAX =
"I want to use the computer today Daddy?, No Darling im maxed out on my Credicards and Microsoft wont take the Deed to the house yet as collateral to use the Internet unless we get a co-signer baby, Do you know where we can get a co-signer at this time of night? I didnt think so.. go back to sleep now"

P.S. Dont take the Mark of The Beast.
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Reply #9 on: March 16, 2016, 01:26:41 AM
Im not defending you totally nor am I critising you  totally, If your legitamte hacker and your up to whatever thats your business whether your a capable hacker  or not I'd  advise you not to be broadcasting what your going to do ... its not very stealth

I was more concerned about making a point about that people in this industry get to a point were they forget how they learned and find it so easy to  criticise when people dont have there level of learning andf are considered noobs/scriptkiddies/idiots .. when they were once these things

You could be delusional for all I know , or a geniune hacker thats flown the coup I really dont care , but telling people what your going to do and leaving a trail isnt very smart or sound like a professional hacker thats wants to keep his footprint hidden no matter what he's up to

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P.S. Dont take the Mark of The Beast.

what ever cult your in ... can I join  ?? its sounds like a crazy ride .. are drugs involved ?


Ok Ive had my fun for tonight ... stay safe you crazy lunatic...
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Reply #10 on: March 16, 2016, 02:42:22 AM
bugsecurities you restored my hope in humanity momentarily, for that i am honored and pleased :)

i am
LEGALLY Insane (I get SSI $ but only use it on Drugs no hookers)
LAWFULLY Gifted.

The Cult is in enrollment season, I can waive the fees and paper work if you repeat this Secret Password phrase on Admission and believe it in your heart- "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life"

after that we good, All Wrong doing is already forgiven, The only Secret is the fact that there are no Secrets. Truth and Mercy are on your side . etc...

(due to the lie detector we hook you up to during the Password stage of the 6 hour admittance test process to join The Cult© Please Remember to remove all metal objects from your body.. no jewelry or piercings PLUS you can not have a PaceMaker!! it throws the robots into panic mode).

P.S.  †>∞$

 
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Reply #11 on: March 16, 2016, 03:01:28 AM
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life"

you seem very hung up on god or gods's are you very religious ? , I know only the gods of backbox that show no mercy to the young learners ,

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.And we will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to learn and use scripts that help learn people how to learn and understand the workings of evil. And you will know are name is the Lord when we lay are vengeance upon thee, backbox muthafuckers !!!!  :P

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Reply #12 on: March 16, 2016, 12:26:40 PM
hey bugsecurities,
I don't mind your english or misspelled writing, this is not what we discuss about here but something very substances but, I do mind your language which is the best way to introduce yourself so you don't need any further introductions.

I have to admit that I had difficulty to understand in most cases what you are talking about and what you were trying to say in that kilo-metric written. People who speaks bad language usually doesn't have an argument to discuss about and definitely intellectually very poor.

However I could clearly figure out that you spent about 1.5 hrs to write this, all to say, "if either I have been a script kiddie or not". It was a simple question and you could ask straight where you'd save time to everyone including yourself (i spent 15 mins reading trying to understand what you wrote up there).

The answer to your question is obviously "no", I have never been a script kiddie in my beginning times with security. In my time/generation there were no scripts around the security you muppet ;D

There was no metaspolit or whatsoever you have today, at your disposal to avail and use it with just a click.

The answer to your other question about "did I ever used these tools?" is "yes", I did and I do use the scripts very often. Using them  doesn't make me script kiddie, it will make me a script kiddie if I use the same way/purpose that you do. I use them because they are handy and time saving not because I can't asses the security task without them. i can manage to assess an IT infrastructure without all those scripts, can you do the same?

However, i use them because there is no point of reinventing the wheel as they are already there readily made. So the only reason I use them not because I want to avail of some tools written by someone else where they automated many of hacking and security mechanisms, because I do have a clue about what they do, what they are capable and most importantly how they do that and they save me a lot of time ;)

I am not using them only when I am looking for 0-days, there is no tool capable to find such thing.

So coming back to the topic, I confirm my previous statement (for both of you, yourself and igobyjoshua), you will never be a real hacker because you don't have the spirit and the right attitude.

You don't know the philosophy and the ethics behind the spirit of hackers.


You are just script kiddies and will remain such.

Attacking CERN and Vatican doesn't make you a hacker you muppets. :)

I have spent enough words here, even though you don't deserve any attention, but I do this for the public and the community, so people can read, not for you. :P

Good luck and enjoy the rest of your life by trying to be hacker without knowing the meaning of it ;D ;D ;D
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Reply #13 on: March 17, 2016, 06:37:40 PM
I totally agree, your correct that Yahushua the king of the Jews did rise from the grave some 2000 years ago in the flesh! Great comments!

Things that will not exist in next Realm/Age/AfterLife:

1. "$"
2. Computers (slows us Down)
3. Canaanites
4. Doubt
5. The satanic D.C, LONDON and The Vatican "CROWN" -(Globally Taxed/enforced "LAW" = "Uniform Commercial Code")
6. Large Mute/deaf worthless Moloch Statue that our human leaders bow down to each year at Bohemian Grove.
7. The Sun.

“Today, if you hear his voice,
    do not harden your hearts
as you did in the rebellion,
    during the time of testing in the wilderness,
where your ancestors tested and tried me,
    though for forty years they saw what I did.
That is why I was angry with that generation;
    I said, ‘Their hearts are always going astray,
    and they have not known my ways.’
So I declared on oath in my anger,
    ‘They shall never enter my rest.’ - Psalm 95:7-11